stupid electric windows

[show n shine]

just want to say hello again, as I've had the gsi in storage due to having it sorn, don't worry its back on the road now !!

right i got the side mirrors working (dud switch) as with the hand brake switch. so there fine.
the last niggle is the driver-side window works fine as it should.
the rest work when they want but for a brief period, so i keep the closed.
had a mate who sat in the back, and it worked, the window opened. but the dam thing wont close now (most frustrating).
passenger side front and back are the same.
PS they work with rear and 4 way switch - when they want to.

help please as thieving scum lerk about nowadays.

cheers all.

the rear driver-side been working all day today in the 3-4 years Ive had the dam thing !!!!!!!!
+ i got to do the stupid clutch and oil change in the roaring sun lmao

[Cavalier342]

Might just be the motors that are seized up a bit. If moisture or dampness gets inside, it can corrode some parts and mess up electric connections. If i were to play my card, i'd remove the door panels just to have a peek Hope this helps mate

[show n shine]

what ami suppost to do when the door card is off as the motors are rivited in.
ive tried another 4x switch and its the same as before.

[Cavalier342]

If the motors are ok, check all electric contacts, fuses, wiring etc. Make sure its all solid and rigged up and give everything a bit of WD-40.
my best advice.
Andrei

[show n shine]

how do i check if the motors are OK.
details please

[Cavalier342]

Well i've never mucked about with them but i would imagine like most other parts, giving it a live 12V wire feed should make it work. I'm not very technically minded, but i'm trying to think. I hope someone else knows more than me mate.

[craggles]

my windows have a mind of there own,,in my case they wont stay down,,it only happens when it rains,,somethin to with it coming it a bit on the passanger side foot well,,i remember somone haivng trouble with the windows on another forum yr or so ago that turned out the be the total closure on the driver side,,little micro switch

[_Andy_]

check to see if the window runners are still straight as my driver side tends to pop out at the top and causes th window to go down again.

[Robsey]

If you have an intermittent fault...as it does sound like, then I would do the following: -

1) Undo the connector between the drivers and passengers front doors, and check that all pins and sockets are clean...nut rusty or full of oxidation...powdery green on copper pins, orange on steel pins.
coat the connectors with vaseline (white petroleum jelly) and re-connect the plugs..this will prevent ingress of moisture.

2) Check all brown wires and their attachments to the grounding points...just plain browns, not those with coloured stripes (they will be door-lock and full closure wires).

3) Remove your door inner trims and peel back the plastic sheeting. (carefully - don't want to tear the membranes).
Now feel around for the connectors for the window mechanisms...unplug and look at the condition of the pins...looking for corrosion...also check that none of the wires are chaffed or snapped.
Clean all the plugs and pins as best you can. Again coat with vaseline.

4) On the rear doors, the loom passes through rubber tubing. The earth point for the rear doors is just inside near the sill panel...again check all your chassis earths (browns again!!).

5) Regarding the motors themselves, try operating these and apply some assistance by gripping the glass...do not do this from inside the door...you may get caught / injured in the mechanism.

6) Check replace the main fuses for these windows with new / known good items, just incase the fuses are defunct or starting to go awol.

7) Finally generally keep you battery well charged!!!

Other than this, just check that the mechanisms and window guides are clean, not too tight and are not twisted or bent in any way.

[Robsey]

Have we had any success with this yet???

If so, what was the actual problem?..

[Envoy CDX]

Anyjoy?

Sounds like a dickey connection - unless they are working when its particularly hot and such - if thats the case the motors need worked back in and seriously lubed up.

[show n shine]

sorry for the rather late reply. better late than never i suppose.

well begining of january i had got the car out of storage, and was getting it ready for this summer.
but i am still having the issue with all the windows not working now.

i have tried 4 4x way switches from centre console with no joy

pleaseeeeeeeeee help me.

if some1 has knoledge on electrics on cav's and live in hertfordshire, could you please give me a hand. i will make it worth your while lol.
(hitchin, luton, stevenage, letchworth , baldock area)

[iangsi]

On my GSI I replaced the circuit board that controls the 1 touch up & down of the window, it's in the black box mounted on the electric motor where the door loom plugs in. There are 4 little torx head screws that hold it in, once undone it should just slide out. It's unusal for the motors to go

[show n shine]

can any1 confirm the above please. bttt

[Envoy CDX]

Have you taken the door cards off and checked the connections?
I'd give the mechanism a good greasing and try again.

Is it a case of they start to open then stop? Or do they work for a bit then refuse to work again?

[show n shine]

yeah they work when they want to then decide that thats enuf !!!

i want to get the motor on the road and its letting me down, just because of this 1 small issue.

[Cavalier342]

yeah they work when they want to then decide that thats enuf !!!

i want to get the motor on the road and its letting me down, just because of this 1 small issue.

Inoperative windows have never stopped me from driving anywhere. It's not your motor that's letting you down, it's one small component that is faulty. Get that door panel off and check the motor and wiring connections. That's the best advice.

[planetc]

They all stop together or seperately? Older motors commonly have control unit failures, which is built into the regulator /motor assembly. If they individually play up this would be a strong possibility. If they all stop together then start tracing feeds and earths.

[show n shine]

hi all. as i had today off i went to see the cav and have a little look round with the fuse box.
here it goes.
i am an novice at this. what i done was get 1 wire to each fuse end connected to a bulb.
done it to fuse 30, it illuminated
done it to fuse 12, nothing at all
done it to fuse 26, nothing at all.

i tried with ignition on and off.

[show n shine]

morning bump