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veg oil,
if u have a td cav and want cheap oil u can go on line with makro and its £19 for 20 liters,
Rustyarches vauxhall make them and i break them. cars owned 40+cavaliers,8 calibras, 3 astras, 2 novas, 1 fontera, 2 carltons, 1 senator, 1 omega, 1 corsa , 3 vectras,
Re: veg oil,
would this work with my old mans dti omego or just the older td engine ?rustyarches wrote:if u have a td cav and want cheap oil u can go on line with makro and its £19 for 20 liters,
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Re: veg oil,
dont think it works on the newer dti lumps
more for the older derv engines etc i think
more for the older derv engines etc i think
My valver brings all the boys to the yard, dam right its cammed and carbed, dam right it pops and farts, I would show you but the fuker won't start!
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Dammgsi pie wrote:dont think it works on the newer dti lumps
more for the older derv engines etc i think
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veg oil,
only for the older engines
Rustyarches vauxhall make them and i break them. cars owned 40+cavaliers,8 calibras, 3 astras, 2 novas, 1 fontera, 2 carltons, 1 senator, 1 omega, 1 corsa , 3 vectras,
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Re: veg oil,
The vaux's that will run on it arerustyarches wrote:only for the older engines
Astra / cav / nova with the 1.5 or 1.7 tds isuzu lump
Frontera 2.8 tds
The above need no mods to run on it however it is recomended that you fit a heat exchanger.
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and the very earliest vectras with the same isuzu engine.
i had an N reg one for a bit a couple of years ago. straight veg oil from makro wasnt a problemo, when they werent sold out that is!, used to run 50/50, sometimes 100% oil with a bit of petrol in it.
it died once in the very cold weather. what i think happened is the fuel line from the rear was very thick with too higher a % of veg oil and the oil in the pump was more protected. it got 2 miles from a freezing cold start and died going up a hill. i waited a bit and with lots of cranking it went again. I then learnt not to go too nuts with the oil, and actually mix it with say 25% normal diesel. did filter some chinky takeaway oil and use that and the smell when u came up to a junction with the window open was awesome, funnily enough it made me want sweet and sour balls and lots of chips....
i had an N reg one for a bit a couple of years ago. straight veg oil from makro wasnt a problemo, when they werent sold out that is!, used to run 50/50, sometimes 100% oil with a bit of petrol in it.
it died once in the very cold weather. what i think happened is the fuel line from the rear was very thick with too higher a % of veg oil and the oil in the pump was more protected. it got 2 miles from a freezing cold start and died going up a hill. i waited a bit and with lots of cranking it went again. I then learnt not to go too nuts with the oil, and actually mix it with say 25% normal diesel. did filter some chinky takeaway oil and use that and the smell when u came up to a junction with the window open was awesome, funnily enough it made me want sweet and sour balls and lots of chips....
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Re: veg oil,
I bought a load from our 99p shop when the panic buying of fuel was going on recently....worked out £4.95 a gallon....mixed it in with 75% diesel. Runs fine.
I didn't realise the early Vectras had Isuzu engines in them...are they rare now? Always fancied an early Vectra in green.
I didn't realise the early Vectras had Isuzu engines in them...are they rare now? Always fancied an early Vectra in green.
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Re: veg oil,
Tried that but it looks like you need a card which you can only get if your in the trade.rustyarches wrote:if u have a td cav and want cheap oil u can go on line with makro and its £19 for 20 liters,
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VauxhallGirl wrote:I bought a load from our 99p shop when the panic buying of fuel was going on recently....worked out £4.95 a gallon....mixed it in with 75% diesel. Runs fine.
I didn't realise the early Vectras had Isuzu engines in them...are they rare now? Always fancied an early Vectra in green.
yeah, mine was N reg and a hatch in Kings Blue, 60ish K miles. was an ok car but utterly dull with less character compared to a cavalier. it served it's purpose across a winter but I dare say as it was doing 52mpg av and the fact it takes some recycled takeaway oil and the Makro special stuff, I should have kept it.
The way to go I believe is a switch over system with an oil only tank in the spare wheel well, start on thinner diesel, switch over to oil when warm, coolant heated filter head for the oil etc etc.
I ought to look for a decent cdx cav saloon I suppose and lose the 1.6 auto L. My colleague is commuting a plenty in his cav TD and it's doing 800+ to the tank.
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800+ to the tank??? That's bl**dy brilliant! Think I can only get 500 at the most!
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yeah, thats what i thought too!VauxhallGirl wrote:800+ to the tank??? That's bl**dy brilliant! Think I can only get 500 at the most!
my 2.0 8V used to do quite well, say 450 to the tank when i used to just commute, no running around, but geezer at work is averaging about 63 mpg he said, its all in his economy spread sheet (he's a bit like that) It showed 805 to the best tank...
he never goes over 65 he said.
i did ask if that was in 2nd....., but mine has got 100hp more than his oil muncher.
Re: veg oil,
Been running my Cav 1.7TD on nearly 100% veg oil since last aug. done about 10k miles so far.. Makro is near me is priced at around £17 to £20 for 20L. Was £18.73 the other day, Got 40L for £37.46 love IT!
Also them Omega B with 2.5TD run well on Veg oil.. thinik its the same engine as the BMW 325TDS?
Also them Omega B with 2.5TD run well on Veg oil.. thinik its the same engine as the BMW 325TDS?
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For those running long term on veg oil would you please report on any issue you have, if any. All the info available seems biased in one light or another with little long term info.
The reason I ask is because at "work" we have a long running discussion with the obvious pro's and con's being rehashed over and over, and I'd like to see how people get on and at what milages.
The usual condemning argument is rubber seals perishing/degrading causing an expensive bill negating the whole point of running the cheaper fuel, and something about a bacterial "infection" within the bowels of the engine (but that's not something that anyone I know has seen).
Cheers
The reason I ask is because at "work" we have a long running discussion with the obvious pro's and con's being rehashed over and over, and I'd like to see how people get on and at what milages.
The usual condemning argument is rubber seals perishing/degrading causing an expensive bill negating the whole point of running the cheaper fuel, and something about a bacterial "infection" within the bowels of the engine (but that's not something that anyone I know has seen).
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Re: veg oil,
Yep omega 2.5 derv will run on it but there is a mod that needs to be made tho to do with the lift pump. The 2.8 in the frontera will run on it straight away.Super89 wrote:Been running my Cav 1.7TD on nearly 100% veg oil since last aug. done about 10k miles so far.. Makro is near me is priced at around £17 to £20 for 20L. Was £18.73 the other day, Got 40L for £37.46 love IT!
Also them Omega B with 2.5TD run well on Veg oil.. thinik its the same engine as the BMW 325TDS?
I have heard that makro is cheap for veggie oil but dont you need to be in the trade to get a card to shop there?
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Yeah, You do have to be in the trade or know a friend with one
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Re: veg oil,
Tescos are doing 10 litres of sunflower oil for a tenner which makes it 50p a litre cheaper than derv!
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Re: veg oil,
is sunflower oil any different to "vegetable oil" as it is labelled.?
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Re: veg oil,
Theres a website advertising on Real Radio XS (manchester/NW area), you can produce up to 2500 litres a year tax free, they also show you how to do it with instructional dvds and can supply the kit to do it.
Will try and remember the company name.
Will try and remember the company name.
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Re: veg oil,
Makro spend £75 or more and get £15 off your bill
4x 20L drums at £18.75 each is £75 - £15 = £60 for 80L of veggie!!
CHEAPPP...
4x 20L drums at £18.75 each is £75 - £15 = £60 for 80L of veggie!!
CHEAPPP...
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